Comments on: Ode to Goran Suton http://www.spartansweblog.com/2008/01/21/ode-to-goran-suton/ A statistical look at Michigan State basketball, with a dash of football talk Sat, 04 Jul 2009 19:52:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Coffee Talk: The Seniors | Spartans Weblog http://www.spartansweblog.com/2008/01/21/ode-to-goran-suton/comment-page-1/#comment-18474 Coffee Talk: The Seniors | Spartans Weblog Thu, 05 Mar 2009 22:18:56 +0000 http://spartansweblog.wordpress.com/2008/01/21/ode-to-goran-suton/#comment-18474 [...] big man from a local high school; he departs as the near-perfect Tom Izzo post player.  I once called him “indispensable.” This year’s nonconference results (unfortunately) proved me [...] [...] big man from a local high school; he departs as the near-perfect Tom Izzo post player.  I once called him “indispensable.” This year’s nonconference results (unfortunately) proved me [...]

]]> By: Spartans Weblog » Texas Game Recap (12/20/08) http://www.spartansweblog.com/2008/01/21/ode-to-goran-suton/comment-page-1/#comment-11944 Spartans Weblog » Texas Game Recap (12/20/08) Sun, 21 Dec 2008 04:26:06 +0000 http://spartansweblog.wordpress.com/2008/01/21/ode-to-goran-suton/#comment-11944 [...] including a couple absolutely beautiful old-man trick shots.  I think even I (who has composed an ode to the man) underestimated how much we missed him.  The fact that he was somehow physically able to play 26 [...] [...] including a couple absolutely beautiful old-man trick shots.  I think even I (who has composed an ode to the man) underestimated how much we missed him.  The fact that he was somehow physically able to play 26 [...]

]]> By: Maryland Game Recap (11/27/08) | Big 10 Insider - Big Ten Sports Team News, Schedules, Scores & More! http://www.spartansweblog.com/2008/01/21/ode-to-goran-suton/comment-page-1/#comment-10899 Maryland Game Recap (11/27/08) | Big 10 Insider - Big Ten Sports Team News, Schedules, Scores & More! Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:33:40 +0000 http://spartansweblog.wordpress.com/2008/01/21/ode-to-goran-suton/#comment-10899 [...] once called Goran Suton “MSU’s most indispensable player.”  I’m disappointed to now have a data [...] [...] once called Goran Suton “MSU’s most indispensable player.”  I’m disappointed to now have a data [...]

]]> By: Spartans Weblog » Maryland Game Recap (11/27/08) http://www.spartansweblog.com/2008/01/21/ode-to-goran-suton/comment-page-1/#comment-10550 Spartans Weblog » Maryland Game Recap (11/27/08) Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:13:10 +0000 http://spartansweblog.wordpress.com/2008/01/21/ode-to-goran-suton/#comment-10550 [...] once called Goran Suton “MSU’s most indispensable player.”  I’m disappointed to now have a data [...] [...] once called Goran Suton “MSU’s most indispensable player.”  I’m disappointed to now have a data [...]

]]> By: Spartans Weblog » Treating a case of DAD http://www.spartansweblog.com/2008/01/21/ode-to-goran-suton/comment-page-1/#comment-7706 Spartans Weblog » Treating a case of DAD Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:19:05 +0000 http://spartansweblog.wordpress.com/2008/01/21/ode-to-goran-suton/#comment-7706 [...] weren’t keeping him on the bench.  (Notice how Suton keeps showing up here?  Someone should write an ode.)  Overall, MSU’s defensive rebounding performance was somewhat underwhelming for an Izzo [...] [...] weren’t keeping him on the bench.  (Notice how Suton keeps showing up here?  Someone should write an ode.)  Overall, MSU’s defensive rebounding performance was somewhat underwhelming for an Izzo [...]

]]> By: Goran Suton: All new media-approved version « Spartans Weblog http://www.spartansweblog.com/2008/01/21/ode-to-goran-suton/comment-page-1/#comment-217 Goran Suton: All new media-approved version « Spartans Weblog Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:03:24 +0000 http://spartansweblog.wordpress.com/2008/01/21/ode-to-goran-suton/#comment-217 [...] as I’ve commented in the past, some of Suton’s historical inconsistency relates to the nature of the MSU offense. I do [...] [...] as I’ve commented in the past, some of Suton’s historical inconsistency relates to the nature of the MSU offense. I do [...]

]]> By: Scott http://www.spartansweblog.com/2008/01/21/ode-to-goran-suton/comment-page-1/#comment-216 Scott Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:23:13 +0000 http://spartansweblog.wordpress.com/2008/01/21/ode-to-goran-suton/#comment-216 I think that Suton has received a bum rap for "awkwardness" and other criticisms, not unlike Larry Polec did at MSU a generation ago. But while Suton is not a gazelle like Polec (who frankly only looked clumsy or awkward when dribbling the ball), like Polec he's much more solid that the average fan gives him credit for being. Yes, Suton needs to be a bit more driven to excel. But we need to face the fact that he's a pretty low-key guy. He obviously works hard, as shown by the way he's reshaped his body as compared to when he was a high school senior. Like Polec before him, I fully expect Suton to be greatly improved as a fifth year senior. And considering the fact that Suton is already the best rebounder in the league not named DJ White, that's a very good thing. Suton has a real chance to AVERAGE a double-double next season, and that's darn good. I'm glad he's on our side. I think that Suton has received a bum rap for “awkwardness” and other criticisms, not unlike Larry Polec did at MSU a generation ago. But while Suton is not a gazelle like Polec (who frankly only looked clumsy or awkward when dribbling the ball), like Polec he’s much more solid that the average fan gives him credit for being.

Yes, Suton needs to be a bit more driven to excel. But we need to face the fact that he’s a pretty low-key guy. He obviously works hard, as shown by the way he’s reshaped his body as compared to when he was a high school senior.

Like Polec before him, I fully expect Suton to be greatly improved as a fifth year senior. And considering the fact that Suton is already the best rebounder in the league not named DJ White, that’s a very good thing.

Suton has a real chance to AVERAGE a double-double next season, and that’s darn good. I’m glad he’s on our side.

]]> By: kj http://www.spartansweblog.com/2008/01/21/ode-to-goran-suton/comment-page-1/#comment-210 kj Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:46:53 +0000 http://spartansweblog.wordpress.com/2008/01/21/ode-to-goran-suton/#comment-210 I read somewhere that one way to increase your blog traffic is to "be controversial." I thought for sure I'd hit the mark on that with this post. But so far everyone agrees with me about Mr. Suton! Back to the drawing board . . . I read somewhere that one way to increase your blog traffic is to “be controversial.” I thought for sure I’d hit the mark on that with this post. But so far everyone agrees with me about Mr. Suton!

Back to the drawing board . . .

]]> By: john rhodes http://www.spartansweblog.com/2008/01/21/ode-to-goran-suton/comment-page-1/#comment-211 john rhodes Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:01:03 +0000 http://spartansweblog.wordpress.com/2008/01/21/ode-to-goran-suton/#comment-211 I love to see comprehensive analysis from fans. Suton is another example that players mature at their own rate be it slowly or quickly. Kalin Lucas comes in hot as a firecracker and it takes Suton two seasons to mature to whatever you think he is now. But big men especially have a much harder time especially those who have a European influence in their games. The rough and tumble play in the US is much different from the style in Europe but it has also taken until his senior year, for Drew Naymick to be the rebounding force he always should have been. Izzo's teams always mature slowly and by the end of the season, they usually surprise people who think they're not much to worry about, based on those stupid "polls" and "rankings" that people seem to put so much store in. Don't get me started on that. I love to see comprehensive analysis from fans. Suton is another example that players mature at their own rate be it slowly or quickly. Kalin Lucas comes in hot as a firecracker and it takes Suton two seasons to mature to whatever you think he is now. But big men especially have a much harder time especially those who have a European influence in their games. The rough and tumble play in the US is much different from the style in Europe but it has also taken until his senior year, for Drew Naymick to be the rebounding force he always should have been.
Izzo’s teams always mature slowly and by the end of the season, they usually surprise people who think they’re not much to worry about, based on those stupid “polls” and “rankings” that people seem to put so much store in. Don’t get me started on that.

]]> By: Spartalytical http://www.spartansweblog.com/2008/01/21/ode-to-goran-suton/comment-page-1/#comment-212 Spartalytical Tue, 22 Jan 2008 23:52:01 +0000 http://spartansweblog.wordpress.com/2008/01/21/ode-to-goran-suton/#comment-212 Great analysis. He's been a sore spot in past seasons' Spartan basketball conversations around the water cooler, but this year he's doing much better. I'll take his offensive rebounding over a few additional points (although the former should imply some of the latter) any day. I'd also prefer he not speak on camera, but I digress. Great analysis. He’s been a sore spot in past seasons’ Spartan basketball conversations around the water cooler, but this year he’s doing much better. I’ll take his offensive rebounding over a few additional points (although the former should imply some of the latter) any day. I’d also prefer he not speak on camera, but I digress.

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